Is Britain Democratic?

Posted on March 24th, 2011 by admin1 in democratic consulting

With the Middle East ablaze with the desire to be democratic as we are supposed to be , is Britain democratic?

Did you want Kilos instead of stones?
Did you want metres instead of yards?
Did you want the currency to change from the old pound system?
Did you want Britain to be governed by laws made in Europe?
Did you want us to be a multicultural society?
Did you want your children to be taught sexually explicit facts at school?
Did you want the end of hanging for murderers?
Did you agree to the end of free speech?
Did you agree to civil marriages?
Did you want to go to war with Iraq and Afghanistan?
Did you agree to the way foreign ships are allowed to fish off our shores?
Did you think that road tax was for road maintenance?
Did you think that unmarried mothers should be placed at the top of the housing list when some families wait years for housing?

Perhaps you can think of more instances where we as a people were never truly consulted.
Have you ever felt helpless that laws are pushed through without even knowing some of them are under review?

Are we a democratic country?

…..is Britain democratic – no not at all. Democracy is just a word banded about by politicians to make the voters/public ‘think’ they have a say in the running of this/their country and that the ‘opinions’ of voters/public are listened too by government/politicians – its just a pipe dream.!!

Your posting gives ‘all’ the reasons why were ‘not’ a democratic country – decisions taken by government that the public disagree with nearly all the time – the elected government is ‘supposed’ to make decisions that the peoples ‘want’ – not this onslaught of policies that the peoples disagree with.

All the dreamers out there will of-course disagree – they all hanging on to the pretence that we are a ‘looked-after peoples’ by our governments.

……………….felt helpless about laws etc being pushed through etc ? – ‘all’ the time.

A little ‘revolt’ against ‘our own’ government seems more appealing every day now.!!

15 Comments on “Is Britain Democratic?”

  1. givemestrength

    Well we’re not as democratic as we once were. And our democracy is hyped up all over the world.
    And I think that our Democracy is a flexible one, where the interpretation is sadly wanting.

    We are a multicultural society, but not a truly integrated one, by any stretch of the imagination.
    Weights and measures had to come, if not later but sooner. And has it been derogatory?

    But to be part of Europe and in full trading with them, then unfortunately we come under some of their laws. You have an endless list which I cannot comment on some issues, because their unchangeable.

    But I will say this country seems to bow down more than they should to the foreign countries for inexplicable reasons I cannot fathom. Thirteen is your list. This say something?

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  2. Sam

    Democracy is a game for lawyers

    .References :

  3. The Enchanting Wizard of Rythm

    No country is a true democracy, in the sense that everyone votes on everything. Britian is, or at least pretends to be, a representative republic.

    The problem is that your upper house only represents LORDS. And, of course, is still presided by a monarch.References :

  4. Doford

    It is democratic. We elect people to make decisions. Which is kinda more republic than democratic. The thing is when everyone makes agreements we lose the freedom to be or do anything other.

    Perhaps people shouldn’t be consulted and just be allowed to get on with their lives. Let people make agreements in the business or local area by themselves instead of having big sweeping decisions for everyone that no one really needs.

    Maybe we’re too democratic as a state and not democratic enough in our own little lives.References :

  5. groundhog

    Yes if you are richReferences :

  6. EU Dictatorship

    We are as democratic as the former Soviet Union.References : http://www.eutruth.org.uk/tentruths.html

  7. ronnie14848

    You have a royal family that can disolve a goverment and the unelected House of Lords that can overthrow any law etc that the elected parliament passes. And to all those idiots who say non of this would happen the fact is they have the power. So…..no….this country is not and never has been democratic. We had a chance with Cromwell but we caved in.References :

  8. Sweet Pea

    No and most people are disenfranchised because they have nobody that they want to vote for.References :

  9. Terrier (UK)

    "Did you want Kilos instead of stones?"
    I don’t really mind either way. BTW – you *are* allowed to use imperial measurements, contrary to what the tabloids may say.

    "Did you want metres instead of yards?"
    Yes, they’re a more convenient measurement.

    "Did you want the currency to change from the old pound system?"
    No, and thankfully there’s no great chance of that happening without a referendum. Come to think of it, I doubt it will even be offered.

    "Did you want Britain to be governed by laws made in Europe?"
    I don’t care where laws are passed, I care how good they are. Pretty pleased that they forced us to clean up our beaches.

    "Did you want us to be a multicultural society?"
    We were already a multicultural society when I was born. Still, I’m glad of the cultural richness that people from other backgrounds brings to our society.

    "Did you want your children to be taught sexually explicit facts at school?"
    I prefer that my child, and the children she mixes with are taught about reproduction from a teacher than to rely on confusing messages from their friends.

    "Did you want the end of hanging for murderers?"
    That happened before I was born – but yes.

    "Did you agree to the end of free speech?"
    No, and thankfully we in the UK still have it.

    "Did you agree to civil marriages?"
    Yes, of course. Why should homosexual couples be treated differently just because of who they fall in love with.

    "Did you want to go to war with Iraq and Afghanistan?"
    No. Neither invasion was justifiable from a moral standpoint. However, we are obliged under the NATO agreement to be in Afghanistan. Iraq, absolutely not.

    "Did you agree to the way foreign ships are allowed to fish off our shores?"
    No.

    "Did you think that road tax was for road maintenance?"
    Yes. I did think that.

    "Did you think that unmarried mothers should be placed at the top of the housing list when some families wait years for housing?"
    I am not sure how the system works, I was under the impression that those on the housing list were ranked in order of need. If that means an unmarried mother gets a house ahead of somebody who has been waiting longer but their need is less, that’s fine by me.

    Were those the answers you expected?References :

  10. David H

    …..is Britain democratic – no not at all. Democracy is just a word banded about by politicians to make the voters/public ‘think’ they have a say in the running of this/their country and that the ‘opinions’ of voters/public are listened too by government/politicians – its just a pipe dream.!!

    Your posting gives ‘all’ the reasons why were ‘not’ a democratic country – decisions taken by government that the public disagree with nearly all the time – the elected government is ‘supposed’ to make decisions that the peoples ‘want’ – not this onslaught of policies that the peoples disagree with.

    All the dreamers out there will of-course disagree – they all hanging on to the pretence that we are a ‘looked-after peoples’ by our governments.

    ……………….felt helpless about laws etc being pushed through etc ? – ‘all’ the time.

    A little ‘revolt’ against ‘our own’ government seems more appealing every day now.!!References :

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  12. Wallacey

    There are two types of democracy: Direct democracy and Representative democracy.

    Britain is a representative democracy, in that we elect our politicians in elections (council, European, mayoral, general, etc) Some people argue that the European Union controls too much of British legislation, but that is debatable. Some people also argue that the current voting system (First Past the Post) is undemocratic and unfair, but that too is debatable. In a sense, the British public do not decide on the positions of the Cabinet as they are appointed by the Prime Minister (and the Shadow Cabinet is appointed by the Leader of the Opposition). The Upper House (the House of Lords) is not elected – therefore deemed undemocratic: this issue is being reformed by the Coalition.

    So, in brief, Britain is a democracy but there are aspects of our democracy that are impractical and deem undemocratic: so our elected politicians must reform these impracticalities. Be aware that the Government cannot hold a referendum for absolutely every piece of legislation it proposes or votes on because law making would be slowed quite considerably and it would be financially consuming. Even though it would be more democratic for referenda to be held on every parliamentary bill, you can’t expect British people to have to drive to a polling station and vote on a near daily basis.

    Hope this helps!References :

  13. Salty dog

    Did you want Kilos instead of stones?
    Yes, they are part of the physics of nature.

    Did you want metres instead of yards?
    As above

    Did you want the currency to change from the old pound system? This is unclear 20 shillings to the pound or 100 pence, or a new currency ?
    Would be a good idea, as the pound has lost 60% of is value since 1968 rendering the nation much poorer.

    Did you want Britain to be governed by laws made in Europe?
    We are not governed by laws made by the EU. Laws in Britain are made with reference to EU directives, if we wish to disregard them, we can do so.

    Did you want us to be a multicultural society?
    Well the British tried through their former Empire to make everybody else multi-ethnic, so why not us?

    Did you want your children to be taught sexually explicit facts at school?
    Most defiantly, lets bring this subject up on to a profession level.

    Did you want the end of hanging for murderers?
    Yes! too many innocent people have been hanged in the passed. Hanging as a form of penalisation is despicable.

    Did you agree to the end of free speech?
    No. And as long as Europa exists, then freedom of speech and expression will exist.
    We had some trouble with the freedom of the press,under Thatcher.

    Did you agree to civil marriages?
    Who people choose to love and marry is their business.

    Did you want to go to war with Iraq and Afghanistan?
    No

    Did you agree to the way foreign ships are allowed to fish off our shores?
    Well we fish off of theirs, so I suppose it a win-win of a lose-lose situation.

    Did you think that road tax was for road maintenance?
    It’s a well known secret that road tax goes into the coffers of the exchequer to pay for other needs, than that of roads.

    Did you think that unmarried mothers should be placed at the top of the housing list when some families wait years for housing?
    If their need is greater, then yes.

    And Britain is not a democracy as compared to other European countries. FPTP is non democratic and has its origins in the dark ages, a time when it was legal for the police to brutally attack striking pickets.References :

  14. Bob

    No country is a true democracy, partly because it would be unworkable on numerous grounds. Even the most democratic countries are representative democracies where we elect politicians to make decisions on our behalf.

    As for things being pushed through without even knowing they are happening:
    1. If you mean getting rid of the residual powers of the Monarchy such as royal prerogative which allows the executive to do things as extreme as declaring war without consulting the elected parliament, then I agree.

    2. For things discussed in Parliament: You can only blame yourself. There is a whole TV channel dedicated to showing all of every debate in Parliament (BBC Parliament). It’s not mine or the governments fault that you don’t keep up with events.

    As for your questions. They are all subject to opinion.

    However, its worth pointing out that metrication has nothing to do with Europe. It is an international treaty dating to 1964, which the USA (amongst others) is also party to.

    I also happen to think that good sex education early is a good thing, rather than having kids believing myths that the hear in the playground. This country currently leaves sex education until it is far too late (i.e. young girls can, and are, getting pregnant).References :

  15. Publius

    Thanks for the laugh. I don’t mean to be rude, but you do make a good point.

    No, your country is not democratic. It is only partially democratic. I can’t cast stones, seeing as the Senate in my own country originally had its members appointed as representatives of the various states. In your country, however, the House of Lords contains representatives of the various estates, so to speak. This is basically an hereditary system, not democratic.

    Further, you have a monarch, rather than an elected leader. You somewhat make up for that with your Prime Ministers. I’ve often thought that Margaret Thatcher would have made a better president for us than our own foreigner, Barack Obama.

    Cheers.

    I suppose that I should add that I have great respect for Her Majesty and would not overly mind being her subject. But I couldn’t subject myself to the prince who threw Cinderella over for the ugly stepsister.References :

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